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  My mom died at 96 (without a visit from her granddaughter)

  by BONEZZ in

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  don't get here much anymore.

  my mom, if you remember, really wanted to see her granddaughter before she died.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcpuj96a8lg.

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  Irish Dame

  I'm so sorry for your loss. Condolences to you and your family.
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  Suicide - How many do you know within the JWs

  by Lady Lee in

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  2. scandals

  thw wts likes to play games with their statistics.

  one interesting but truly tragic is the number of jwhovah's witnesses who commit suicie.. now i suspect that if a person commits suicide shortly before or after they are disfellowshipped then the elders would say that person wasn't a witness or that they had done something so terrible that they were too guilty to admit it and by their action of committing suicide they pretty much declared they were no longer a jw.. yup fancy talk to make sure any crap didn't fall on them.. so my question.. do you know of cases like this?

  if so then can you answer a few more questions.. had this person been dfed or in real danger of being dfed or whatever the equivalent is if they were never baptized?.

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  Irish Dame

  I know of 6 people within the last 3 years who have committed suicide. Some were df'ed, faded, one an active JW and one was a relative df'ed for just 3 months. People definitely need to be enlightened / educated about depression, that it is an insidious and sometimes deadly disease. The truth about depression and suicide. Please read and share this article from Washington Post, March 23 2016 :
  "I told the truth in my sister's obituary, so that others might choose to live"http://wpo.st/shET1
  
  
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  Banned from the second school!

  by purrpurr in

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  i've been told by a jw friend that when her hall recently had a refurb that big changes were made to the second school.. one, a large sign has been placed on the door telling people not to use it and to sit in the main hall itself.. two,that all the chairs which used to face the large windows looking into the main hall are now side on to the window facing the wall instead.. this is because "so many people were sitting out in there!

  people were finding all manner of exhuses to sit-in there and the brothers want us to all be together in the main hall!

  " she said.. of course i didn't tell her what i really thought of this but seriously?

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  Irish Dame

  Thanks purrpurr for this interesting thread. When I attended kh sporadically for five years prior to finally waking up a year ago, I would often sit in one of the "school" rooms when I arrived late, sometimes 10 minutes before meeting was over so I could go out to lunch with my (now conditional) friends. I noticed the last few months before my last entering kh, for memorial, April 3, 2015, the rooms were often empty and darkened. I don't know if attendants were directing people away from those rooms, but there were a lot of empty seats in auditorium.
  As for the phone call-in lines, I currently have phone numbers and codes for several kh stored in my phone. Some in different time zones. In the past few years, there have been memorial services (watchtower infomercials) for friends in other congregations, so numbers were given to me by relatives and (now conditional) friends. In the past three years, I have been told they are no longer allowed to give these numbers and codes to anyone. This has to be approved by the elders. So, occasionally when I call in to mentally dissect the cult brainwashing to which my relatives are still subjecting themselves, I press *67 so as not to display my name and phone number on caller ID and lose my 'privilege'. Interestingly, in 2010, while the cobe was conducting wt study he called on his elderette wife and she took the opportunity to counsel the entire congregation, as one does, 😊 when she commented, "The faithful slave has made a loving provision by providing the meeting phone call-in arrangement. SOME brothers and sisters abuse this loving provision because they may be a little tired or just not feel like going to the meeting even though they aren't really sick. So, instead of going to meeting they sometimes call in and listen on phone. That provision is NOT for them! It's a provision for those who cannot attend meetings such as homebound elderly or those with severe illnesses. Some use it anyway, but they are not supposed to do that!" I guess she got the congregation told!!
  
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  California Electrician Dies After Falling 53 Stories...Possible JW and Suicide?

  by JW GoneBad in

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  2. bible

  http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-construction-worker-falls-from-l-a-high-rise-hits-cars-dies-20160317-story.html.

  social media is saying that this individual was a jehovah's witness.

  can someone from the southern california area confirm this.

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  Irish Dame

  I know two people who have committed suicide in the span of 5 months. One was df'ed and three months later committed suicide. The other was an active jw ministerial servant/pioneer.
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  This week's resurrection video, will it backfire on the wt?

  by prologos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the resurrection is supposed to be a joyous occasion?, if it ever happened!

  --well, this week's showing at the hall was the opposite, it was about death with violins playing in the background.

  a recently bereaved member, , full of tears, (like many others) could not contain herself.

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  Irish Dame

  This video that was shown at international convention in 2014 and again this week is WT manipulation at it's best. I purposely dialed in on phone line to listen last evening. ttdtt, wrote: "Remember when we said that other religions have followers because the appeal to the heart, and how we appeal to the intellect." Thank you ttdtt for your comment, I could not have said it better! That was exactly my thought in 2014 and now! Thank you prologos for posting this thread!
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  So who attended the memorial and why?

  by atomant in

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  2. beliefs

  this should be interesting.

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  Irish Dame

  I did not attend! I last entered a kh April 3 2015 when I took my elderly mother to the memorial dispite awakening to TTATT about two months previous to that date. This 2016 is first memorial I've not attended. What a relief!
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  Status update and hello.

  by Darkknight757 in

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  2. experiences

  i haven't posted here in a few months and to be honest i haven't been lurking either.

  i hope everyone is doing well.😊 i wanted to take a minute to let you know how things have been the last few months.. recently the brothers decided to finally consider my letter of resignation.

  they met with me alone and i let them know why i have become inactive as a publisher and why i no longer wish to serve as an elder in the congregation.

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  Irish Dame

  Please accept my condolences on the loss of your babies. It's good you are reaching out to others on this forum. Your depression must be taken seriously. Hopefully you'll find supportive people and if you choose, a competent and sympathetic doctor. I wish you and your wife continued success in your fade out of this dangerous cult and ultimately happiness.
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  New Field Service Report

  by cognac in

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  2. friends

  has anyone seen this?

  when did that happen?.

  http://www.jw-archive.org/post/137681838624/new-service-report-jwinspirational.

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  Irish Dame

  Speaking of electronic devices, last week, during heavy snow squall an elder came to door . My elderly mom answered the door. Eldub comes in and first thing he says is "I can't stay but a second"??? He ask her how she's doing, need anything. She said YES, needs her magazines and daily text. She says she feels sad and lost because she's used to reading text and now doesn't have. She said she had also asked another brother for daily text. Elder proudly says he'll read today's text to her right now from his device. Well.....he could not get his modern day equivalent of Rutherford's "phonograph" player of the 1930-40 era (error) to work....hahaha .... So he left.
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  Survey: How long were you in the cult vs what year you were baptized

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  2. friends

  hi people,.

  i want as much data as possible on the effect of the internet on the time captured by the cult.. please answer the three following questions about yourself or about someone you know (for example, if your parents or grandparents were jw's and left).

  1) were you raised as a jw, or did you convert?.

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  Irish Dame

  Raised

  1. 1974

  2. 2015

  3. 41 years

  Pioneered, (inactive off and on).

  last time in kh, memorial 2015
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  Anyone from Plymouth MI or Wayne/Westland or Howell MI.

  by firestillon in

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  2. experiences

  just found this site and still finding my way around.

  seeing if there are any old acquaintances here from the areas above.

  i and my wife were in those cities till around 1989. drop a note if you were too or know us.

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  Irish Dame

  My ex attended Plymouth at one point.